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Report: Jim Haslett Told A Fan The Redskins Have Already Worked 'Behind The Scenes' To Get Peyton Manning

Well, it looks as if the defensive coordinator of the Washington Redskins might just have let the cat out of that bag.

From NFL.com:

Meet Rod Denny, who earlier this month was in Hampton Roads, Va., for his 16-year-old daughter's volleyball tournament. During a stay at a local hotel, Denny spotted [Redskins defensive coordinator Jim] Haslett during breakfast. As a lifelong Redskins fan, Denny couldn't let such an opportunity pass without at least saying hello.

The innocuous greeting eventually turned into a meeting of two football minds, during which Haslett apparently divulged the team's offseason philosophy. It just happens that Denny has his own fan blog devoted to the Redskins under the nom de plume of "Rodskins" and later wrote a fan post detailing his conversation with Haslett.

The "fan blog" referenced in the article is SB Nation's Hogs Haven. Exactly two weeks ago today, Mr. Denny wrote a FanPost on that site detailing the long conversation he had with Redskins defensive coordinator Jim Haslett. Lord only knows what Haslett was thinking, but he apparently told Denny some serious insider information on what the Redskins plan to do, and are already doing, to upgrade their quarterback position this offseason.

This is from Denny's FanPost:

According to Haslett, [Redskins general manager Bruce] Allen has some connections with some people in Indianapolis and mentioned discussions surrounding Peyton in a Redskins uniform have already begun behind the scenes.

That, my good friends, is what we call tampering if it is indeed true. It's a big no-no in the NFL, even though, apparently, everyone does it. Denny's story was so believable that, according to NFL.com, it caught the attention of Redskins beat writers.

The Washington Post also called, and Haslett again rejected the notion that he had inside knowledge of the team's plans at quarterback.

"I don't know what our plans are," Haslett said. "I worry about the D."

This all came as a surprise to Denny, who insisted he wasn't trying to play "gotcha journalism."

"When I saw it was getting this much publicity I felt bad, and my wife got on me about it too," Denny told WLZL-FM last week, via The Post. "I had no intention of going undercover or getting him in trouble or anything like that."

Denny, a pastor from Charlotte, N.C., added that he wasn't bothered by Haslett's denial.

Star-divide

In case any of you care, I've known about Mr. Denny's FanPost since February 7th. I followed up with Hogs Haven editor Kevin Ewoldt at the time, and Kevin told me Denny was a well-respected member of the Hogs Haven community. However, because the source was a Redskins fan I'd never met or knew anything about, I didn't rush to Stampede Blue and whip up a post proclaiming, 'REDSKINS TAMPERING TO GET MANNING, VIA HOGS HAVEN!'

My reasons:

1) Ewoldt and Hogs Haven did not 'report' this story. A fan did in the FanPost section, which is designed to allow fans to pretty much write whatever they want so long as it does not violate that blog's rules. Hogs Haven did, however, promote Denny's FanPost to their front page, which is, in a way, the blog's editors endorsing the story.

2) Tampering is a pretty serious violation of NFL rules, and with a potential free agent as high profile as Peyton Manning, it's just THAT MUCH MORE serious if someone is, indeed, breaking the rules to sign a him even though he is still contractually obligated to the Indianapolis Colts. Thus, it's important to get facts straight, and at the time there were a few facts in Denny's report that didn't add up.

That was then. Today, Redskins beat writers thought enough of Denny's account to follow-up on it, and Mike Florio of PFT is also inclined to believe Mr. Denny:

Haslett predictably has denied saying any such thing. Twice. Strategic interests and potential tampering allegations required him to do so, especially since the fan claims that Haslett said discussions about bringing Peyton to D.C. "have already begun behind the scenes." But the fan/blogger also is a pastor, which tends to make his account more believable.

In any event, it’s inherently more believable than anything a coach or G.M. ever has to say. About pretty much anything.

For me personally, I believed Denny's story back on February 7th, and I believe it now. It's just too detailed to be made up. I also do not believe anything, ANYTHING, that comes out of the Redskins camp. They don't exactly have the most sparkling of reputations when it comes to fan and media relations. Oh, and their owner is a sack of human bile.

So, for me, Haslett made a big 'OOPS!' and just let everyone and their mother know what the Redskins plans are in relation to Peyton Manning. The question now is what will the NFL do about it.

Should the Redskins be found guilty of tampering, the Colts could be eligible for compensation. As recently as last year, the Detroit Lions were found guilty of tampering and had to forfeit their seventh-round draft pick that year while also swapping out their fifth-round pick with the Kansas City Chiefs. It's assumed that safety Jarrad Page was the reason Detroit was found guilty.

So, yeah. Tampering for Jarrad Page cost the Lions a 5th and a 7th. What would tampering for Peyton Manning potentially cost the Skins?

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Harry Potter is pretty detailed too.

But seriously, you know people aren’t going to react well to a “heard it from a friend who told a fan who ran into a coach at breakfast after a volleyball tournament” story.

Doesn’t mean it’s not entertaining though.

Not surprised if true.

Washington has an owner thats gots mad money, loves big name players, and ain’t go no QB. I’d be surprised if they didn’t want Manning.

i'm sure they do, if he's healthy why wouldn't they?
washington

is the most likely of places for Peyton to go. that organization is like a fucking black hole for overpaid free agents. of all the places, i would really hate to see him go there. what a miserable team, not to mention how strange Big P would look in that uni. it would be a sad day for Peyton fans, but i can see him signing with them because they are just stupid enough to pay him more than anybody else.

exactly

they want the big splash which has not worked for them, seems like they would have learned their lesson by now and try to develop some draft picks

I really can't see him wanting to play for the worst team in his brother's division
Smells fishy

I find it hard to believe that Jim Haslett would spill that kinda of info to some random dude in a restaurant.

I do think it’s funny how Florio states “But the fan/blogger also is a pastor, which tends to make his account more believable.” I know this isn’t the proper blog for this topic, but we need something a little more concrete than that. Just a silly comment.

agreed, on both counts
Also*

*Mike Florio is a dick

i 2nd that...
Seriously

I wasn’t just trying to be funny, and I am not hating on the guy because he’s become successful. He is a lichen; he’ll respond to emails you send him if they can benefit him in any way but ask him for thought, opinion, or favor and he won’t so much as respond. He’s shown me this several times over the past several years. He is a leach.

I 3rd that

just because he is a pastor it is more believable is one of the more stupid thiangs he has said and he has said a lot of stupid things

maybe

I know a guy who is in the penn state football program that offered to watch my kids over the weekend, seems legit right?

won't stick
  1. I am not sold on its truth. I think he might have uttered that they were interested, but no intelligent human being would ever mention to a lowly fan that they were breaking a serious NFL rule. Notice I said intelligent.

Peyton will definitely deny it too when he’s asked.

Story will not hold water.

best news about this

more NFL people ‘in the know’ (Redskins organization) believe the Colts will make Manning available at some point.

Reading Kravitz back-tracking on ‘if Manning does stay’ today on his blog was making me get nervous. This little potion did the trick.

I’m still thinking that Peyton will either straight up retire or end up in Seattle. Seattle is the only place. That makes some sort of sense imo.

Too hard-headed to retire

Yes because there aren’t other teams that are viable candidates like Arizona or Miami even.

What does Seattle offer?

Lackluster receiving core.
Plays in cold/rainy weather.
About to sign a 29-year-old RB who had one career year, in a contract season.

Or, there’s Miami – with 2 studs on the OLine, an owner willing to make a splash, a top10 WR, an explosive running game, a good slot WR, and another pass rusher away from having an elite defense.

Or, there’s Arizona – with the greatest WR in the league, a great defense, plays in a dome, and has been thru this before with Kurt Warner.

But as you say, Seattle is the only place that makes some sort of sense – really?

if true,

tampering ?

He won’t retire through choice, I don’t think he’ll be able to play at the level that he used to though.

TAMPERING! Give Us Some Draft Picks!

Preferably the # 6 pick in the 2012 draft

If Peyton could get healthy, the colts could be in a position to trade him, and he would go for a kings ransom.

The cost of trading him

isn’t worth it. There will be no trading Manning.

Correct me if I am wrong...

Does making plans for a possible free agent signing count as tampering? It doesn’t read that they’ve contacted Tom Condon or Peyton. Just that they are planning on going after him if he hits free agency. That doesn’t sound like tampering to me.

Wrong

I have no idea why and absolutely nothing to add. Just channeling my inner omaha.

Awesome
This was my thought

Also, what if working “behind the scenes” is asking the Colts about a trade price? Seems like we should know a lot more before declaring tampering.

Fred Phelps is also a "pastor" and he's the least believable person in America
I'd rec this

If not for this mobile app

substantive material here

want me to whisper that caldwell will be retained in your ear or should we let kravitz do that

Kravitz is a rabi-blower
Kravitz and Florio

can start a low life football fan club

I don't see #18 going to Skins

1 reason. He doesn’t want to play Eli Manning twice a year. No one wins in that situation.

Peyton will go to the highest bidder

i know he’s Christ-like, but these guys are all the same. having said that, i hope i’m wrong…

Yeah while he may love $$$ who doesn’t at this point in his career he’ll want the best chance to win. That doesnt’ mean its the highest paid either.

Proof

This would not be that hard to prove. Tracking down if the volleyball tournament was going on would be easy. Proving they were in the same hotel and breakfast was purchased with credit card receipts would be easy to track as well. Then all you need is one person to say "yes, I saw those two talking for a minute" and at that point you have a solid investigation. NOW, proving what they talked about is another thing, maybe, Haslett talked about everything other than Peyton. However, I think Haslett talked.
I think the Redskin’s first & second draft pick in this year’s draft and their 3rd round next year would be sufficient. LOL. Oh god would the Colts turn it around!! LOL.

Not sure if you're serious or not...

But I read the article on the Redskins’ SBN blog, and the story lines up.

Kinda surprising this is all coming out now, since the person who “supposedly” spoke with Haslett posted a FanPost there about a month ago. It generated a huge controversy, and had like 400 comments. One of the readers researched the story, and turns out Haslett’s daughter is on the volleyball team and there was a tournament at that hotel.

But you will never be able to prove what they talked about, unless you have audio tapes or Haslett admits to such (he never would).

A little in between. Serious that you could prove they talked, totally kidding about them being able to prove what was said. Completely kidding that it would get far enough we would actually get draft picks. Like you said, we could all bet that Haslett talked, but he would NEVER admit to it.

NFL.com botched a couple parts of that story...

Rod does not have his own blog and the radio station that talked to him was not “WLZL-FM.” Of course, there’s no link to the author and NFL dont read their comments section or seem to care.

Saying that it’s Rod’s blog is a major failure in this b/c we’re decently known in the NFL/ESPN community, so saying it came from us and not a fan gives it perceived credibility, and at the same time, everyone thinks we (Hogs Haven) is in the business of getting info out of coaches without introducing ourselves as journalists/bloggers/whatever we are. It’s been a rough week, especially since this story died 2 weeks ago and now kicked back up. So goes the off-season.

Kind of weird we have had NO NEWS in a week

When Irsay said a week ago the meeting was coming in the next week. I really hate Irsay and Peyton for this

There is no tampering here, even if it is true.

The Redskins brass discussing the possibility of going after Manning is in no way illegal.

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