Stampede Blue

Foster is a RFA

And the Texans will either sign him to long-term deal or tender him. I seriously doubt he’s going anywhere. Now Mario Williams is another story…

Still Blue - February 14, 2012 via Android app reply

my bad i meant williams

captaincomeback - February 14, 2012 reply

they’ll trade Williams, they did well without him, they’ll franchise Foster if they can’t get a deal done, and Manning already said he’d do an incentive-based contract. I can’t stand the Texans, but if Manning goes there, I WILL root for them over the Colts! Manning NEVER had a good defense, with the Texans, he’d have a top 5 defense. I could see them in the Super Bowl in back-to-back-to-back years if he’s healthy and they can keep the team together!

James Busch - February 16, 2012 reply

A friends cousins sister in law...

Told me Peyton would like to play football for on of the 31 other teams in the nfl next year…possibly.

Suck it. I’m right.

JimiC - February 14, 2012 via mobile reply

Here are...

the odds of each of those happening:
http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story/_/id/7570924/page-2-presents-definitive-guide-possible-destinations-peyton-manning

InvisibleWar - February 14, 2012 reply

0 percent for the colts?

Terrible franchise? what..

Keysta101 - February 14, 2012 reply

or is this a joke?

Keysta101 - February 14, 2012 reply

It's a joke

BoilerUp1982 - February 14, 2012 reply

Yes

It was on SportsPickle.com. I love their satire. Fantastic. Just read some of the headlines from across the sports world. They are very funny human beings and nothing is intended to be taken seriously.

that was hyperbolicly hilarious

thank you

muncie_in_this - February 14, 2012 reply

hey no problem

i thought it was pretty funny, too.

InvisibleWar - February 14, 2012 reply

"matt stafford can't lead detroit. only peyton manning can do that."

was probably the funniest part to me. hahhaha

muncie_in_this - February 15, 2012 reply

LOLZ

I love how sources are always “close to the family” but remain unnamed.
Also, “definitely interested in possibly coming to the Texans”
Definitely…possibly.

Seriously, I can neither confirm nor deny that Peyton may or may not play for the Texans. Wowzers. That’s some insider information.

steveoly32 - February 14, 2012 reply

Exactly

Don’t put too much stock in Texans rumors. Longtime Houston Chronicle sportswriter, John McClain supposedly has “inside sources” and his tips are almost always wrong. The Texans are notorious for being secretive and might even use misinformation at times even. I just don’t see this happening.

Still Blue - February 14, 2012 via Android app reply

You’re a moron if you truly believe this is true.

Could it happen? Sure

But I don’t buy a family friend of Manning’s talking to the press about it unless his name is either Archie or Eli and they would put their names to it.

And if they were truly a family friend they would also know that Robert Irsay has been dead for 15 years and that Jim Irsay owns the team.

Nobody seems to notice that part for some reason.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/14/manning-to-texans-notion-quickly-shot-down-in-houston/

manning to texans shot down in houston....now on pft

coltsgolfbeer - February 14, 2012 reply

Of course it was I mean really they didn’t bring in Grandpa Favre either when that rumor came about Manning is no different. Course if it were true they wouldn’t admit it either

Good luck for them with Schaub

The guy will never be a capable SB QB

I wouldn’t rule him out as far as being capable I think he’s injury prone though I’m trying to recall the last time he lasted an entire season.

Texans…. Determined to remain a 2nd tier AFC team

He looked like he regressed the past two seasons.

Before Fat Albert squashed his foot

Schaub’s passer rating was 96.8, sixth best in the league.

Still Blue - February 14, 2012 via Android app reply

He played in every game in 2009 and 2010

But perception trumps the facts again.

Still Blue - February 14, 2012 via Android app reply

the article

by the houston writer said next to nothing. if they don’t want manning cause they have matt shaub, then they’re idiots.

Why would they be idiots?

Matt Schaub isn’t 36 years old with 3 neck procedures and they’re good enough to get to an SB as is why change it?

cause matt schaub isn't very good

I disagree you don’t need to be elite to win an SB if you have a balanced team which the Texans do have

that's what baltimore has been saying for 10 years

baltimore doesn't have a passing and rushing champ on their team with the best OL and a leading receiver.

they have mediocre talent on offense, while Houston has elite talent at almost every position.

BLOODontheTRACKS - February 15, 2012 reply

ray rice is every bit as good

as any running back in houston. and with the exception of johnson i wouldn’t call anyone in the passing game elite….although i like owen daniels. plus i think there is some reciever talent in houston….flacco is….well flacco.
if manning is healthy and houston isn’t even interested they might look back in a few years and think “what they hell were we thinking”.

ray rice was a bust in the playoffs.

for god sakes, he couldn’t even produce against the patriots defense. Foster on the other hand had 130, 150 yard rushing games against two of the top 10 defenses in the NFL. Yes there’s a difference. Rice is overrated

BLOODontheTRACKS - February 16, 2012 reply

so he doesn't have a good playoff game so he is overrated?

ok….

....what's your point?

He didn’t have 2 good playoff games…
Last time I checked, playoffs were important?

steelblue - February 17, 2012 reply

plus if manning is healthy

the texans would be a juggeranut

Exactly

Well said. Don’t get me wrong, Manning is a HOF QB and one of the best ever… But we don’t know how bad his neck is nor how he will perform in the future.

Still Blue - February 14, 2012 via Android app reply

well obviously the texans wouldn't sign him

unless he was healthy. plus his neck is fine, it’s the nerves that have to regenerate.

Odds that this gets reported here?

Peyton could play for any team

As long as there is a ‘source’ to prove it.How many of these stories have we seen? Peyton will play here. Peyton wants to play there. Peyton will stay. Peyton will retire.

Could he end up with the Texans? Yes. But I’m not holding my breath or spending any time thinking about it until I hear it out of Peyton’s mouth.

pc3 - February 14, 2012 via mobile reply

Pointless article.

No information here at all. BBS, you should quit putting trash up on this site.

Booyah!Blue - February 14, 2012 reply

Agreed

An unnamed friend of BBS’s family said he is an escaped, insane serial-killer under an assumed identity, says a report from WDUM out of Podunk, North Dakota.

I guess it must be true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blueblocker - February 14, 2012 reply

i heard he also farts in front of the clergy

danorocks17 - February 14, 2012 reply

Just curious about the "language of sources"

For example, let’s say I have thoroughly read up on, and kept tabs of, the Peyton Manning and Jim Irsay situation. I have subsequently formulated the opinion that Manning and the Colts will part ways. Using the typical language of unnamed sources that you find everywhere from PFT to ESPN to FoxSports, I could be used as a source with the following citation:

“A source with knowledge of the situation firmly believes Manning and the Colts are parting ways.”

And nobody would be the wiser.

I have no problem believing that a reporter or journalist in a jam has fabricated a quote or source in such a fashion to make a story or headline.

BoilerUp1982 - February 14, 2012 reply

Never Going To Happen

The Texans are definitely a team that will pay 0 attention when Manning hits the market. They think they’re a SB contender when healthy with their current roster. They’re probably not as Foster and Johnson are both injury prone and the latter is getting old. But it doesn’t matter. Even though Schaub is in the lower end of the top 10 currently playing and I can’t say for certain that it’s not scheme and Andre Johnson or Foster making him look better than he is, he’s there guy. Yates really didn’t impress me much either but he could be a Schaub in a few years. Like the Jets with Sanchez the investment is too deep to walk away from.

On a more practical note, the Texans seem to run the naked bootleg OVER and OVER and OVER. Peyton simply can’t do that and these younger QBs can. The Texans are not about to totally retool their offense to fit 18.

southerncolt2 - February 14, 2012 reply

when did Foster become injury prone?

This

is still stupid.

SDHoosier - February 14, 2012 reply

I'm a bigger Manning fan than I am a Colts fan.

I would love to see this happen. Manning deserves another few Super Bowl runs. If Manning had Houston’s defense, they offensive line, Arian Foster, Andre Johnson, and Owen Daniels, the Texans are a legit competitor for the Super Bowl. Too bad he would face the Colts twice a year, but if that’s what it takes for Manning to get a few more Super Bowl, then fine.

KBUnitz - February 14, 2012 reply

If they pay him 20mil pet year they won't have as much talent...lol!

Well said

I was one of two to "rec" it 4 days ago...

and I’ll “rec” it again.

This…

is stupid.

If BBS wasn’t so infatuated with proving people wrong and then shoving it in their faces, even when NOTHING has changed, maybe we’d wouldn’t have good stories by Stew and mgrex interrupted by this claptrap.

wow

These posts n comments r dumb jus leave it alone until we actually kno what’s goin to happen tired of all the hearsay

Marvelous Marvin - February 14, 2012 via mobile reply

Jim, is that you?

AceOfSpades - February 15, 2012 reply

The shit that passes for news on this site...

smh.

Would someone tell me why it’s alright for Peyton to play for every other team in the league except the Colts?

NFLFan83 - February 14, 2012 reply

If the circumstances were better sure I’d like for him to finish his career here but this team is in rebuilding mode I see no point in Manning staying here as a babysitter to Andrew Luck for the rest of his career. Might as well rebuild now.

BREAKING NEWS

Peyton Manning will do something in March. We have no idea what it will be, but according to a friend of a friend of a cousin of a brother of a friend of an uncle of a sister-twice-removed of a friend of Rob Lowe, Peyton will, in fact, do something.

88steve - February 14, 2012 reply

^^^^

Best comment yet!!!!

Marvelous Marvin - February 14, 2012 via mobile reply

texans cap situation

The Texans can sign him all they want and then try to field the same team they had this year….GOOD LUCK!

sundaywager - February 14, 2012 via mobile reply

THE CAP GETS EVERYONE

HAHAHAHAHA

sundaywager - February 14, 2012 via mobile reply

They don't need him

They are already the best team in the AFC. Tossing out Schaub could actually shorten their window. Unless Peyton is gonna play 5 years at a pro bowl level which is unlikely IMO…

But if he is willing to play for peanuts to win rings that’s fine with me!

Schaub is a career average QB

I'm not gonna waste time debating other teams QB...

Since he has been a starter in Houston he has a 2-1 TD-INT ratio and over a 90 rating…

Believe what you want though…

That's just not an accurate statement...

with the exception of his first year as a starter in Houston in 2007 (when he was 13th), his QB rating has been: 7,7,9,6.

Schaub is much better than average.

Schaub is average

When you have the top WR in the NFL, a few other very good receivers, one of the best OLs (best this year) and a great running game, you have to do more.

Heck, this was the first time they got into the playoffs.

By this logic, Peyton was average for his first 8 years in the league...

Thankfully I don’t subscribe to this logic.

By the way, name 14-16 QB's better than Schaub...

since that would make him average.

How does this make Peyton average for his first 8 years in the league?

*I don’t believe that Schaub is average (slightly above), but even still your comment makes no sense.

It's actually quite simple...

In Peyton’s first 8 years, he had:

1. One of the top (if not the top) WR in the NFL (Harrison)
2. A few other very good receivers (Wayne, Stokley)
3. One of the best OLs (Saturday, Glen)
4. A great running game (James)
5. Had a rep as not living up to big moments (awful playoff record, 1-6 or something against the Patriots, can’t win “THE BIG GAME”, etc.)

Peyton did all of this and didn’t “do more”. Ty46 defined that as average – looks like it fits Peyton to a tee, if that’s average.

You can't say that one didn't help the other...

You’re stating that all of those guys made manning better, and for edge’s first 2.5 years I would say that you’re absolutely correct but who is to say that it wasn’t Peyton taking those really good players and making them look great? I would say that the anecdotal evidence that is the second half of his career show’s that it was likely Peyton was the driving force behind the visible improvement.

cq.noble - February 15, 2012 reply

You're getting into the middle of a conversation...

in which you’re arguing against a point that I’m not making. I don’t disagree with you at all.

Yougotme - February 15, 2012 reply

yeah I probably should have read the whole thread I just have other things to do haha

cq.noble - February 15, 2012 reply

You're comparing Manning, who got to the playoffs 6 times in his first 8 years

got numerous records, and was a perennial top ten quarterback (except rookie year) to a quarterback who’s team only got to the playoffs once, in a year where he was injured for 6 games.

Also, Manning only had Stokley for two full seasons of those eight years, and Wayne didn’t become a good starting WR until 2003 (so three of those eight seasons). The Colts’ run game was 17th, 12th, 7th, 4th, 29th, 26th, 11th, and 24th in YPA, even worse in yards per game. OLs are hard to define, but with those running numbers I find it hard to say “one of the best OLs”.

And Ty never said anything about Schaub “not being able to win the big one”. He said they’ve just now gotten into the playoffs.

(206)NightRidah - February 15, 2012 reply

Good lord...

talk about over analysis. If you can’t figure out that I’m saying that Ty’s ridiculous comments are, in fact, ridiculous, well then have at your over analysis.

By the way, regarding the last point, look at the post directly below this one.

Yougotme - February 15, 2012 reply

A lot of this started

Because I said the Texans were the most talented team in the AFC and didn’t need Manning. That is an opinion of course but many professional analysts agree that the Texans are the best team in the AFC from a talent perspective…

Implying that Schaub isnt a good QB cant be proven based on his play. He isnt a superstar but he is pretty darn good IMO. No one would debate that Manning even at 36 when healthy isn’t 5x the QB Schaub is. I am just not ready to say that Manning with 70-80% arm strength would be better. But if anyone can play effectively at 3/4 capacity it is him…should be very interesting to see…

It would also be a great test for young Luck to go up against the master and maybe perhaps win a game or two!

You can't seriously compare the two

Don’t have time to get you a big analysis. One performs 90% of the time, the other underperforms 90% of the time.

Ty46 - February 15, 2012 reply

Over analysis is what lazy people say.

You tried to compare Schaub to Manning’s first 8 years, which is ridiculous.

No, I didn't...

I was using Ty’s ridiculous list of items to show that Schaub was “average”. That same list could have applied to Manning – therefore, it’s a stupid list. That’s all. And that’s why your analysis was, indeed, an over analysis.

Yougotme - February 15, 2012 reply

Except, as I pointed out, your list was wrong.

It could not have applied to Manning for his first 8 years.

James Broschat - February 17, 2012 reply

Well, this is my last post on this, so feel free to have the last...

word. You did not point out anything. It was a generic list that was just as easily as refutable for Schaub as it is for Manning. That’s the entire point. You seem content on getting in the weeds when it’s not needed. Ty’s list was not applicable to either Schaub or Manning. It certainly doesn’t prove Schaub as average – that was the entire point. Sorry you missed it.

Yougotme - February 16, 2012 reply

As I said before.

Your claim that the list applied to Manning/Schaub equally was wrong.

And what he lacks is not only stats, but

the poise you need to have in 4th quarter, when you’re behind or in big moments..

He has no extra gear, he is not a leader, he is just an arm…

Yup, Production doesn't matter!

If you say he is average then thats enough for me. Any other nuggets of wisdom?

Texans window

Texans window was closed the moment they signed Schaub. Hell, a 75% Peyton for three years is a better option than a 100% Schaub for 7 years.

Yep

It’s amazing any team without Manning has managed to win a SB in recent years…he should have 10-11 rings

They are hardly the best team in the AFC.

southerncolt2 - February 14, 2012 via mobile reply

Once again!

I’m not gonna argue other teams. Please look at their roster and how they have young players in their athletic prime. Very good QB, stud WR RB…and loaded on defense

They have the most talent in the AFC

Yeah a stud WR that is over 30 and just missed a bunch of games with an injury that’s already bothered him for a while. A RB that dropped from the #1 RB in the league to the 14th and like Andre Johnson missed games. Foster has already been out 1/3 of the Texan’s games since he entered the league. Schaub is above average but not elite. Their D is about the 8th best in the league. Key factor? They had the 3rd easiest schedule in the league this season and played most of their good oponents at home. They were 0-3 against other division winners this season and only scored more than 20 points once after the middle of the season. There’s nothing to argue. Defenses vary from season to season and this a team with bad depth at WR and an injury-prone offense. Stats dont lie. They might be the most balanced team in the NFL. Doesn’t make them the best.

southerncolt2 - February 14, 2012 via mobile reply

Whatever guy

Decimated with injuries. If you refuse to look at their takent then that’s on you. I really don’t care…

Talking about “talent” is a circle-jerk for people who also talk about bs like clutchness and fantasy points. It has nothing to do with actual football performance. I just dropped a bunch of actual numbers and facts and you respond with herp a derp talent. Good job buddy.

southerncolt2 - February 14, 2012 via mobile reply

Not here to argue with people...

Not gonna list the Texans roster and recent stellar draft picks as its not important enough to me. I am here to talk Colts football…not debate the irrelevant

Read my posts son…I gets a lotta respect on these threads for knowing what the fck I am talking about.

I don't wanna seem like a troll but you f****** idiot.

Andre averaged 110? yards per game in the playoffs with TJ Yates. He led the league 2 straight years in a row before getting Hamstring problems. Deal with it.

You Manning is God freaks will learn

Its not just as easy as inserting him anywhere and immediately win 13 games. Houston is a power run team that relies on play action bootlegs which Manning can’t do. Also Manning makes his calls at the LOS and prefers to throw than run…

He would be a great fit on a team with good D but poor QB play where he could have free reign over the offense …Denver Jets, San Fran…any of those teams are teams he could make a serious run with…if he wants to get paid he will go to Washington or Miami…

Or he could do a reduced deal and perhaps stay in Indy…

Yeah, we all know Peyton can’t bootleg, execute a play action pass, or execute a stretch play action pass (intense sarcasm)

I said he can't run the play action bootleg...

No one said he cant play action in general or run a stretch play…although the Colts ran it less and less as he aged.

We get it you think Manning is a timeless god and will not show signs of age…

Would you pay him the option?

If he comes back to 80% of his last season, absolutely…. Although I hope he leaves the Colts ASAP

I doubt a contender will pay that kinda money

For 80% of Manning which would regress naturally to 65% in a few years based on age alone…

For 2004 Manning 28mil is a bargain

DOESN'T WORK

that way. Unless Manning regains 100% of his arm strength his effectiveness will take a major hit. He has to be able to stick the ball into tight spots. Once defenses see his lack of zip on the ball they will tighten up their coverage and make it harder for him to be effective. His pocket presence and ability to read defenses won’t mean much if he can’t zip it in and make all the throws. He’ll be a lot more like Colt McCoy. Teams aren’t going to pay anything for him until they are certain his arm is 100%.

javen - February 14, 2012 reply

Agree with you

all the way to the last statement. There will be several teams willing and ready to pay Manning if he is 80%, as long as he shows signs of improving.

shoospa - February 14, 2012 reply

I stand by the " This is stupid" statement becuase

1. If the Colts need to leave 18 to rebuild why would the Texans, a team just done rebuilding, hire a QB w/ 1-3 yrs left.
2. Schaub is a solid QB with a number 2 rushing game and defense. I would assume he would be released which wouldn’t make much sense as he has less wear n tear and knows the offense.
3. Manning will get paid enough where you might lose a talented guy such as Foster, Williams, or their C I think it’s Myers.
4. The Texans could draft a WR but signing someone with immediate playing ability could do better a lot for this team and/or I think a TE could be something they should look at.

If the Texans play it smart and spend the money on a position like CB, NT, WR, TE.. And resign some guys and it’s a deep playoff contending team barring multiple bizzare key injuries

BobInBlue - February 14, 2012 via mobile reply

Jim Irsays latest tweet..

Could this be the Manning announcement, I don’t know what other big news there could be?

jopat18 - February 14, 2012 reply

Probably about the coaching staff

It’s finally filled

coltsfan723 - February 14, 2012 reply

Colts probably have biggest staff in the NFL

Irsay will need all the money to pay the fired guys and pay the new ones

is this Bob Kravitz agin????? lol

toolman94 - February 14, 2012 reply

And Bob Allen is getting trashed by local sports radio over those comments

He doesn’t know anything, look at the holes in his statement. He isn’t breaking any news here.

“definitely interested in possibly coming to the Texans” definitely and then possibly???
Ok, I can say that about every coin flip as well

“wants to play on a team that has a chance of going to a Super Bowl, and the Texans fit that description.” Texas sure do fit that description. So does Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Patriots and the Ravens…….

GotDebt - February 14, 2012 reply

ok..

SportsCenter @SportsCenter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Breaking: @nflcolts owner @JimIrsay says he’s open to keeping Peyton Manning at reduced salary. If you were Peyton, what would you do?

Keysta101 - February 14, 2012 reply

Of course he did!

And it’s the smart play…I have been saying that if Peyton leaves its because he wants to for weeks now. Keeping him for less $$$ is the best solution for all parties…Peyton isn’t worth top dollar right now…

Now let’s see if Peyton really wants to stay and play on a mediocre team and make less money. My guess is he wont…hopefully I am wrong

Manning to the Bills

C’mon, make it happen! If he’s not going to be a colt, then I want to see him in Buffalo. How great would that be for their city?

BenD - February 14, 2012 via mobile reply

I also love the phrase in the report:

That he is DEFINITELY interested in POSSIBLY playing for the Texans. Down right Shakespearean!!

BenD - February 14, 2012 via mobile reply

Miami

at least I could go watch him down here

OBGYNOSUPREME - February 14, 2012 reply

It is impossible to pay Manning what his true worth has been to the franchise over the last 14 years

50,100,150mil…per season

He would be worth every penny if this was an uncapped league…

But it’s not an uncapped league…so you can not pay him 1/5 of your cap space at this point in his career…

I wish you were the gm of the Patriots.

Why?

(206)NightRidah - February 14, 2012 via mobile reply

This should be good...

Please get served

(206)NightRidah - February 14, 2012 via mobile reply

Manning would have more rings

and I never would have read your rambling comments about the same exact thing every 4 or 5 comments down.

Ramblings about what...

(206)NightRidah - February 14, 2012 via mobile reply

Reading your posts you and I generally agree on everything....

(206)NightRidah - February 14, 2012 via mobile reply

Nah sorry. I was in a pissy mood.

And you just had several comments right in a row that were very similar. I usually do agree with you.