Reports are that the Colts have met with current team consultant and former-Ohio State Buckeyes coach Jim Tressel twice about becoming the next head coach in Indianapolis. Now, former-Colts coach Tony Dungy is hearing Tressel is Irsay's man, but Dungy made it clear he 'does not know' who Irsay will hire. Dungy discussed the Colts coaching search on Dan Patrick's radio show this morning.
It was reported that Irsay flew down to Florida to meet with Tressel recently. The Colts have reportedly interviewed CFL coach Marc Trestman as well. Brad Childress, Mike Zimmer, Jay Gruden, Jerry Gray, and Pete Carmichael have also been linked to the Colts head coaching job.
Now, for those of you keeping score out there, Tony Dungy didn't think the Polians would be fired at season's end, and they were. He said Jim Caldwell would keep his job as Colts head coach for next season. He said Chip Kelly was going to leave Oregon and go to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Personally, I hope he's dead wrong, yet again, with the Tressel report. Tressel will be a very tough sell in Indianapolis. The man is a disgrace to his profession, a bold-faced liar to his colleagues, players, and even NCAA investigators. Apologies to our own Stew Blake, who is a Tressel-Till-I-Die kinda man, but liars who blatantly violate NCAA rules don't play well to fans in this market. Just ask Kelvin Sampson.
Back to Dungy, he acknowledged he has talked to NFL teams about head coaching vacancies. He also wants to do an interview with Bill Belichick prior to the Super Bowl, and went so far as to say he's 'good friends' with the Patriots head coach.
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We all have our own opinions
I think he’d be a great hire.
stonewall12345678 - January 23, 2012
Me Too
newyorkcoltsfan - January 23, 2012
me too
he is very conservative,but i think he would assemble a good staff and win immediately
wmorton2 - January 23, 2012
ME TOO! Why the NFL continually recycles coaches is beyond me. Let’s get some new blood in here….Personally I don’t care if he lied in college to protect his players. It’s not like they were molesting kids, they sold some ugly pants that no one really wanted! They got free Tats! not big league crimes here people, I took one for his team. I believe the players know it, I think this team Knows it. IF it wasn’t for ONE VERY STUPID QB, this would have most likely blown over and you guys would be saying that hiring Tressel would be a great think for the COLTS….His record speaks for its self…..He’s a Winner everywhere he goes and I LIKEY!!!!!
cliff.laswell - January 23, 2012
Tressel
I don’t like him either. I don’t know how “tressel-ball” will work with our system here with a QB like luck. Also, Irsay tweeted over the weekend that “he’s never been to Sarasota” in response to people saying he had visited Tressel. I think this was Irsay’s way of saying that he may not be going in that direction.
coltsgolfbeer - January 23, 2012
Either that, or
they actually met in Venice or Bradenton.
Ayrshire - January 23, 2012
What A Croc
Kelvin Sampson didn’t play in th eIndu market because he didn’t win. How else could you justify supported the boorish behavior of Bobby Knight, while he won?!?! The minute he stopped winning, IU suddenly realized they couldn’t tolerate hus behavior. Bottom line is of Tressel wins, no one is going to care about anything else.
newyorkcoltsfan - January 23, 2012
When did Sampson not win?
He was accepted fine, until he screwed up again. He was given a second chance at IU and blew it.
HOOSIER NOLE - January 23, 2012
But I digress....
We’ll leave the IU Bball talk over at the “Quarry”. Brad’s already horrible at the football thing…..don’t want im screwing up the roundball too.
HOOSIER NOLE - January 23, 2012
He already attempted
last year to write some article about Tom Crean and IU BB. One of the most uninformed pieces I’ve seen written, and the writers at the Quarry ripped it to shreds.
ruascott - January 23, 2012
HA
I seriously just come here for the LOL’s anymore. I spend a lot of time over at the FSU blog, Tomahawk Nation. Bud Elliot does a fantastic job over there. Maybe if I link it Brad might take a look and see how an SB Nation site is supposed to be run.
HOOSIER NOLE - January 23, 2012
Totally wrong
IU was ranked in the Top 10 in the country, and had only lost a few games the entire season, when Sampson was fired. They were competing for a B1G championship and very high seed in the tourney.
ruascott - January 23, 2012
How'd this get so many recs?
It’s pretty much the opposite of correct.
Sampson was accepted for the majority of his employment at IU, until the allegations of his cheating came to light. As soon as he was caught repeating the same mistakes he made at OU, he immediately became the new villain. He wasn’t forced to resign because he wasn’t winning (because he was winning) — it was because he was breaking the rules.
Luck - January 23, 2012
Kelvin Sampson, by virtue of his final win (over Purdue), is IU’s all-time leader in winning percentage. That last win edged him ahead of Bob Knight. Sampson was fired a month before the NCAA Tournament in the midst of what was IU’s best regular season since 1993. IU deserves plenty of heat for hiring him in the first place, but his termination was in spite of his on-court performance, not because of it.
John M (The Crimson Quarry) - January 23, 2012
link - Chris Brown from smart football takes a dump on tressel ball
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Deconstructing-The-grisly-demise-of-Tressel-Ba?urn=ncaaf,189322
coltsgolfbeer - January 23, 2012
Look at tape from the Troy Smith era...
He is gonna have Luck or Manning.
You would run off tackle too with Pryor, Krenzel, Zwick, or Boeckman
(206)NightRidah - January 23, 2012 via mobile
hope you're right
just want someone who will be good for Manning or luck
coltsgolfbeer - January 23, 2012
This^
Those who are worried about Tressel Ball and conservative play, a good coach will maximize his strengths. Tressel will be inheriting PM or at the worst, Andrew Luck. People were bitching about Dungy Ball too. When Dungy came in we remained one of the top offenses year after year. Also, Brian Billick (an offensive mind) took over a defensive minded team in Baltimore. Both Dungy and Billick won SBs.
steveoly32 - January 23, 2012
there are a lot of better people out there than Tressel for the job
and Dungy didn’t do a very good job in my opinion getting Caldwell ready to be a head coach,, too many good ex-coaches and current co-ordinators out here to choose Tressel,, let him be an assistant or a co-ord first
OBGYNOSUPREME - January 23, 2012
It's not Dungy's fault...
I think Dungy helped Caldwell out as well as he could. It’s not Dungy’s fault that Caldwell couldn’t make the transition… Just my 2 cents…
JohnHandburgers - January 23, 2012
No but its his fault for insisting that the Colts name him his successor when he steps down.
CF4L - January 23, 2012
Well...
I’m sure most fans would have been going a bit crazy wondering what the COLTS were doing if they decided to go away from their current scheme and hired someone outside of the organization to replace Dungy, especially after winning a superbowl. Caldwell was the logical choice at the time – It just made sense because with him Peyton blossomed. But Caldwell couldn’t step up to the plate as a HC, at all. So really that’s on Mr Irsay because it was “his” decision to ok the hire. What I do blame Dungy for is sticking us with all of these other coaches who had no place being on the sideline to begin with such as Christensen, Metzellars, Reich…
JohnHandburgers - January 23, 2012
Except change is inevitable I mean really what good was it to stick with the same old same old it just got us early playoff exits.
Something new might’ve actually improved the team.
CF4L - January 23, 2012
Yeah, he helped him out alright...
at the expense of the Colts.
Ayrshire - January 23, 2012
Coming from the guy who thinks Dungy was terrible for the Bucs and Colts that doesn’t hold much water.
Turned the worst franchise in all of sports around and coached a Colts franchise that had been to three playoffs before him to a Super Bowl Title.
He was definitely a bum
udllama - January 23, 2012
4 playoffs
udllama - January 23, 2012
Get your facts straight.
All I’ve ever said is that he couldn’t take them to the next level in Tampa. As a matter of fact, he was fired for it. And, regarding my comment above, he was responsible for the disaster that is Jim Caldwell coaching in Indy, even when all conventional logic said otherwise,…as to hiring him.
Ayrshire - January 23, 2012
Oh please....
Dungy coached the Colts to a Super Bowl Championship so appreciate that. Colts have declined the past couple seasons in several areas and that happens. You re-build and move on. Dungy is not responsible for nothing other than when he was Head Coach and that’s it. Just accept that Caldwell didn’t work out and move on. Management didn’t have to hire him or stick with him for 3 seasons.
RealColtTalk - January 23, 2012
Huh?
I have no idea what you’re even talking about? Not responsible for nothing….??? Was I even talking to you?
Ayrshire - January 23, 2012
Recent postings
I’m commenting on past postings of your comments regarding Dungy and I’m just stating he coached Indy to a Super Bowl Championship. No you were not talking to me but last I checked this was a blog and we are all free to comment on conversations. No harm…just opinions.
RealColtTalk - January 23, 2012
Irsay is 2-2 so far with the big offseason decisions
Fired Polian and fired Caldwell. Hiring Grigs was a big decision but no way to know if that is a good move yet. But my point is that he seems to have made good decisions so far, even though they were difficult. So I am going to trust that he will continue to make good decisions by not hiring Tressell and instead hiring Zimmer. Trestman for OC would be that much better.
FatDT - January 23, 2012
Meant "2 for 2"
2-2 implies two hits and two misses. Derp.
FatDT - January 23, 2012
I have no problem with that
maybe have to interview Bellicheck after he chokes the SB again and gets run out of New England LOL
OBGYNOSUPREME - January 23, 2012
I like this
Zimmer’s been my guy from the get
donkeypunch - January 23, 2012
I mean...
You’re going to tell me because he messed up ONE TIME, that he is a disgrace and a moron. He coached so many great teams and is (in the words of many of his players) a man of integrity and actually cares about his players. Before Tressel was the HC at OSU, he was the head coach at Youngstown St… he took that school from nothing to actually being a contender in it’s conference… He’s a personnel genius and with the right coordinators I have no doubt that he could lead the Colts to a ring (or several). BBS, I used to respect this blog a lot because you gave a lot of great information and (for the most part) kept a fairly unbiased presentation of the information. Lately, SB has become a place for you to throw a running tantrum about the Colts organization. We have had practically a DECADE of great years in Indy… yeah, it sucks to lose for a season or two… but that’s the way the NFL works… I’m not a professional analyst or exec in the sports world, but I’m pretty sure that the people who do get paid to make the hiring firing decisions know quite a bit more than you give them credit for. Take a breath and see what happens… Don’t bash a hire until you’ve at least seen what he could do in the NFL… Plus, let’s be honest, seeing the sweater vest in blue would bring back images of Dungy to my mind and that makes me happy.
bluefacedcolts - January 23, 2012
I couldn't care less about his NCAA violations
but for the sake of clarity, players got paid on his watch at Youngstown State
IndyPacers - January 24, 2012
Disagree
Hate Tressel if you wish but he is a great coach. What he did wasn’t disgraceful. The PSU scandal was disgraceful. What Tressel did was stupid. Because he could have told the truth and the tattoo five only miss 3 games and OSU still wins 10-11 games.
Carrol left USC before the hammer came and Kelly is contemplating doing the same at Oregon. Grow up guys this is the big leagues!
Bill Bellicheck lied and cheated…I’m pretty sure no one would mind having him for a coach. The OSU scandal was mostly conjecture and ESPN hype.
You fans particularly in the Midwest hate JT because he owned your fav team (Purdue, Michigan, ND or whoever).
Do you realize that Tressel won 80% of his games and NEVER had a pro prospect at QB. This is why he called such a conservative game. When he had T Smith, they were a top 5 scoring offense and the playbook opened up.
Give a guy like Tress Luck and the offense will be great. Give him Manning and Manning will call all of the plays anyway. Tressel is great with the media, great with players, and has won big everywhere he coached…
Zimmer is a better hire IMO. But Tressel is not a disaster if they go in that direction!
(206)NightRidah - January 23, 2012 via mobile
I'm fairly certain...
I would stop being a Colts fan if we hired Belicheat.
I have no dog in the former Big Ten race (Ball State Grad) and still want someone with scruples to lead my team. Tressel has broken the rules everywhere he’s been. Plain and simple.
Zimmer is a far better hire. I wouldn’t touch Tressel if it were my team.
emiller17 - January 23, 2012
really?
you are crazy. if we had him instead of dungy there would be 5 banners hanning in the luke.
i would take the hoody any day of the week.
wmorton2 - January 23, 2012
5 banners?
I think that’s an over statement.
Sir Sci - January 23, 2012
Emiller you are a great writer...
But I disagree with you here.
You wouldn’t want BB as HC?! That’s one of the worst takes I have heard on this site. You dislike BB because he is the enemy but if you could get him you would prefer Zimmer?!
I just want to win! I don’t care if we have guys getting in trouble or coaches working the angles. Do I want the Colts to be Cincy and have a bunch of punks no? But I would take a DB like Cliff Harris who can flat out play but smokes weed over a guy like J Lacey who is a solid citizen but can’t play any day.
This isn’t social services or green peace…
Guys who beat women snort coke or pull out guns at clubs are bad news. Coaches who beat their wives, or hand college played bags of money are off limits. Tressel is a much better coach than freakin Carmichael or Gray!
He covered up violations of his kids to win…he wasn’t directly responsible for the vicarious themselves. If he handed Pryor the cash then that would be different otherwise who freakin cares?! No NCAA in the league…
BTW: if we had Belicheck Indy Wouk have 4 or 5 SB rings…
(206)NightRidah - January 23, 2012 via mobile
Lacey was a ball-hawk too in college and is bigger, than Cliff Harris
Ty46 - January 23, 2012
Actually they are about the same size
Lacey was an embarasent last year.
Cliff Harris is also an elite punt returner
(206)NightRidah - January 23, 2012 via mobile
Lacey was kinda good after Coyer was fired.
Peter Storgaard - January 23, 2012
I do respect your opinion, but...
I do still disagree with it. I would rather my team lose than win the wrong way. Yes Bellicheat is the enemy, but that’s the smallest reason wh I wouldn’t want him here. Had the Willie McGinnest faked injury (I was at that game) happened here and I learned that the coaches told him to do it, I would lose faith in the coaches.
If Spygate had happened here, I would stop supporting the team. Anyone who knowingly breaks the rules should be off limits in my book. Yes I want to win, but I want to do it the right way. That’s a huge part of what makes the last 10 years of Colts fandom so great. It was done the right way with good people.
My take on Tressel is that he won a lot in a weak Big Ten (face it) and he sold a false bill of goods (claiming purity and “the right way” the whole time). A bold faced lie to all Ohio State fans. The fact that the same thing happened in Youngstown State shows that it’s a character flaw not an isolated incident. One mistake, I’m willing to forgive. A pattern of lies and deceit I do not want on my sideline.
Character must reign supreme. I have gotten to my position in life by not cutting corners. Sure, I don’t agree with all the rules I follow, but I still follow them. I question the things I don’t agree with at the appropriate time. I don’t just ignore the rules and responsibilities I don’t like.
Once you take that first step toward the dark side, you can never turn back.
I wouldn’t trade 4 or 5 SB rings won the wrong way for my one won the right way. Character and class all the way.
emiller17 - January 23, 2012
I'm all for Tressel..the guy wins
armycolts25 - January 23, 2012
So, he's the Vince Young/Tim Tebow of coaches?
Luck - January 23, 2012
Don't say Vince Young or Tim Tebow
They beat Tressel in the Rose Bowl and BCS National Championship Game respectively.
Coltsfan1345 - January 23, 2012
So, Vince Young/Tim Tebow > Jim Tressel?
Luck - January 23, 2012
Give the dude a chance
if he can’t turn us back to winners then let the hate begin.
ACOLLIE - January 23, 2012
It wouldn't be the end of the world...
I agree kinda, I think Jim Tressel would be a hard sell just because of the baggage he has brought with him. That being said, I personally don’t see a problem in giving him a shot as HC if a competent and experienced OC and DC were paired with him. He is a proven winner. I’m not sure its fair to judge a man by his past alone. If the past was the only thing that mattered then alot of us would get the Gas Face. But in this case, the past is all we have to go of. I trust Jim Isray and our new GM to make the right decision…whatever that may be.
JohnHandburgers - January 23, 2012
*we have to go off of....
JohnHandburgers - January 23, 2012
LIKE
I too am in favor of Tressel as our new HC. My pipe dream would be to bring back a retired coach ala Gruden. Cowher, but it doesn’t look like that is a possibility. The short list of candidates is extremely underwhelming when names like Carmichael and Zimmer are the “top” names. FFS.
Tressel will need to be surrounded by good coordinators and assistants but he can and will be successful. One thing for certain, he is a good leader. I also believe he could really help shore up our defensive and special teams struggles.
steveoly32 - January 23, 2012
i like Greg Roman
coltsgolfbeer - January 23, 2012
Tressel would be great
Come on guys, the pats-colts rivalry would be so epic with Tressel! Darth Hoodie vs Blue Sweater Vest!!
18 HorsePower - January 23, 2012 via mobile
Disgrace??
The world of college football is a disgrace. It’s slimy, corrupt and terribly hypocritical. What Tressel did was protect his kids from an NCAA investigation that was the epitome of all that’s wrong with the NCAA . Did he break rules? Sure. Did he do something morally wrong? Not in my opinion. College football players are exploited like nobody else and the NCAA does nothing to protect them. He was a good coach at OSU. I hate OSU and I’m not crazy about college coaches coming to the NFL despite Harbaugh’s success but I have nothing against Tressel personally.
isaac88 - January 23, 2012
Why did Tresssel win ?
Ohio has 11 to 13 million people with 1 big time football school, OSU. In Ohio you have to get the big time high school coaches on your team, he did. How does any of that translate to the pro game? Just throwing out the question.
RvHauler1 - January 23, 2012
Question and comment for you
Seeing as Ohio has that many people and there is only one major school…do you really think that school would hire someone who can only recruit well or do you think they may actually try to find someone who can not only recruit but also is one heck of a coach? The next question I have would be what makes an oc or dc better at head coaching than a amateur head coach? IMO oc and dc are a seal shoot as well as college head coaches. The only question irsay…you….or brad need to focus on is can he coach and will the players play for him. Unlike Sampson…tressel coached a power house to a championship…Sampson didn’t do that….and ironically lost to the team he would eventually coach in his closest attempt at a championship.
nighttrain551 - January 23, 2012 via mobile
I always wondered where the self rigthous live, I guess behind the desk of Brad Wells. Tressel would be a great hire and is a man of integrity who simply made a mistake. And if it turns you off Mr Wells that’s even better maybe you could go away and they could replace you with a better sports writer.
No1Trotter - January 23, 2012
“The man is a disgrace to his profession, a bold-faced liar to his colleagues, players, and even NCAA investigators.”
LOL, just for this, lets hire Tressel. The NCAA is a mafia, they deserve every lie they get. This is the same fake media moral, that gave Paterno more heat, than Sandusky.
Ty46 - January 23, 2012
Tressel will do a fine, if not fantastic job
And for the record…Crean is a cheater and liar just like Sampson. Google “Crean Recruiting Violation” and see what comes up. He and his Harbaugh wife were absolutely cruel to ghetto center Eli Holman when he transfered to Detroit too. Assholes.
Indy Guy - January 23, 2012
Did you read the article?
First off, everyone cheats re recruiting. You’d be hard pressed to find any Major conference program that is squeaky clean. Second, hes not cheating, but rather exploiting a loophole in the rules.
HOOSIER NOLE - January 23, 2012
Did you know he refused to release Eli Holman's transcripts to Detroit?
Holding a grudge against a bad-tempered ghetto player is just petty. Petty.
Tom Crean: Excellent Recruiter, Mediocre Coach. You’ll see.
Indy Guy - January 23, 2012
Given the circumstances, I can't say it's necessarily a bad thing.
I don’t see any “”http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3388282" target="new">recruiting violation" in this.
If you’re talking about the phone call to Gary Harris, that was immediately self-reported as soon as they realized they messed up.
Hate on Crean all you want, but the guy is clean.
Luck - January 23, 2012
Let's try again.
Link.
Luck - January 23, 2012
Let's be real here: The phone call to Harry Harris was reported
after Crean realized he was going to get caught. C’mon man. Do you really believe that crap?
And as for Eli Holman: did you know he was provoked by Crean’s hot-headed Harbaugh-wife? There are things the press doesn’t know about.
Truthfully, I really don’t hate Crean. I really don’t. But I might know a few insiders who do.
Indy Guy - January 23, 2012
Do I "really believe that crap"?
Yes. I do. He made the call exactly one day after the recruiting period, and reported it later that same day.
As for the allegations about Tom Crean’s wife: I’d love to see any kind of facts/sources about this. I haven’t heard anything related to this. I don’t think the press knows about this because it didn’t happen.
Luck - January 23, 2012
The call to Harris was calculated.
Crean knew he was breaking the rules. He knows the rules.
The call was calculated, like a movement on a chessboard, because he knew it would make Harris think twice about IU. Of course my basis for saying so is pure speculation :)
On the other hand, my claim about Tom Crean’s wife is not. She really was involved with Holman’s tantrum, and Crean handled the situation poorly. Call Eli and ask him yourself.
Indy Guy - January 23, 2012
You have his number handy?
Again, since I can’t find any information regarding this claim anywhere, I’m forced to choose between believing everybody else or you, and so far, everybody else is winning.
Luck - January 23, 2012
Have you seen what hes done with the talent he has this year?
He’s a fine coach. Look what he’s done with Watford.
HOOSIER NOLE - January 23, 2012
Crean's mid-game adjustments need some work. Don't you agree?
With the class coming in, we should be winning a championship soon. Anything less would prove my opinion as true. Don’t you agree? Wait and see. That’s all I’m saying.
Indy Guy - January 23, 2012
No team "should" win a championship in the NCAA
There are too many highly talented teams every single year. Should UConn have won last year, or should that have gone to one of the ~8 teams ranked higher than them in the tournament? That’s the beauty of college basketball – it’s all about who’s hot in the end.
Are the expectations significantly higher next year (and beyond) for IU? 100% without a doubt absolutely. But with year-in and year-out top schools like Duke, UNC, Kansas and (ugh) Kentucky fielding teams of their own, I don’t think anyone besides a hardcore IU homer thinks that the Hoosiers “should” win anything — they’ll certainly have a good chance, and I’m hopeful they’ll add a sixth and maybe even seventh banner in the next four years, but I won’t necessarily be pissed it it doesn’t happen.
Do his clock management skills need some work? Yes, definitely — when it comes to knowing when to call timeouts, he ranks only slightly higher than Jim Caldwell. But, he has made lots of in-game adjustments that helped his team (looking back 26 hours to the Penn State game yesterday gives a prime example).
Add to this: his record this year (17-4) is already 5 games better than last year (with 10 games to go), with exactly one significant addition (Zeller) to last year’s roster. He has taken Watford, Sheehey, Oladipo, Hulls, and others and have taken them from mediocre players and turned them into a highly-ranked team. They’ve made noticeable improvements each year over Crean’s first three years with the program, another big leap this year, and we expect another giant leap next year. Yes, “wait and see” indeed.
Luck - January 23, 2012
I hope that if they hire JT
That we don’t have a 3 year campaign on this site about firing him similar to Polian. That could be the last straw for me…
(206)NightRidah - January 23, 2012 via mobile
Look how polarizing Tressel is already.
And he hasnt even been hired yet!
1959Colts - January 23, 2012
Good point.
The dude needs to advance his career in a different city.
Indy Guy - January 23, 2012
You really think NFL fans
care about NCAA violations regarding players trading memorbila for tat’s? I highly doubt it.
Based upon the comments here, the only one that seems disgusted by the Tressel hire is Brad.
ruascott - January 23, 2012
The rumor is they keep Christenson as OC
And name Tressel head coach
With Tressels conservative style and Clydes outdated offense…
Wow that combination would really suck.
1959Colts - January 23, 2012
Makes firing Caldwell seem pointless if that’s the case
CF4L - January 23, 2012
Disgusted!
I really can’t take anymore of Clyde’s play calling… I swear it’s like he uses the playbook out of SuperTecmo Bowl that only has 4 plays.
JohnHandburgers - January 23, 2012
Still better, than Cam Cameron
Ty46 - January 23, 2012
I thought Cameron called some good plays
vs. the Pats. Mike Martz is worse.
FatDT - January 23, 2012
If some means 5-10 out of 60-70
Ty46 - January 23, 2012
Bad QBs
What do you expect with QBs that should be selling insurance
(206)NightRidah - January 23, 2012 via mobile
Leave it to Irsay...
To Goof The Whole Thing Up!
1959Colts - January 23, 2012
Tressel
I think Tressel would be a good HC as long as he realizes that the Colts offense is to remain like it has been for the last 10-12 years or so with Manning and Luck…the D needs tweaking or changed or at least a better D coord…..and special teams do big time need changing as well……..but he could be that leader that the new GM and Irsay talk about….soon we will all know….personally I wish Dungy would come back and fix it all…..
Colts53 - January 23, 2012
You can pretty much bank on the fact
that anything Dungy says is ‘not’ going to happen.
Ayrshire - January 23, 2012
FTFY^
You can pretty much bank on the fact
that anything BBS’s sources say is ‘not’ going to happen
steveoly32 - January 23, 2012
At least BBS and his sources
have been right in the past. I can’t remember Dungy ever being right.
Ayrshire - January 23, 2012
Do you ever get tired of kissing that guy's ass?
Luck - January 23, 2012
Stating a fact idiot. Deal with it.
Ayrshire - January 23, 2012
No need for name-calling. It was an honest question.
Really though – what’s the last subject on which you and BBS disagreed? After lurking around here for the past six months, I haven’t seen a single one.
Luck - January 23, 2012
Is it a requirement to disagree with the head writer to make a comment?
Are you Dezznutz (incognito)? Not that I owe you an explanation, but I don’t think we agree about Dungy. BBS thinks he’s a great coach. I think he’s way too conservative and his ‘resting’ policies failed the team, for several years. Regarding BBS being right, he was right about one of the biggest topics this past year,….Manning’s injury. Most of the estrogen-dripping fools that comment here were ripping him a new one for the better part of a year. And, guess what, he ended up being right, didn’t he? Every time I’ve read one of Dungy’s predictions or opinions, it’s wrong. So, what can I say. I call it as I see it. And, when you go around asking people if they’re tired of kissing someone’s ass, be prepared for a certain ‘tone’.
Ayrshire - January 25, 2012
So you really think that he didn't just get lucky?
I’m sure it was a little foolish to imagine him actually sustaining additional injuries in May 2011 to require the surgery he received in… wait for it… May 2011.
I know the idea of getting injured in the Texans game in September 2010, as BBS claims, sounds pretty logical. It also sounds pretty logical that Manning waited until four months after the season to get the surgery. Oh wait, no it doesn’t.
Outside of this site, it was pretty popular to understand that Manning sustained a hit during the Redskins game in 2006 which led to additional complications. Did an extra hit or two in that Texans game further aggravate his neck? Sure. Maybe. And I’m sure there were many others. But, he was still able to play, and most everyone else has taken it to assume that he had another problem in May 2011 (not that Texans game, as he has been preaching for the past 16 months) which necessitated the surgery. Until Manning says one way or the other, we’ll never know, but the popular opinion isn’t the one you & BBS share.
Ok, you don’t like Dungy as much as him. Beyond that, it seems you come to his defense on just about everything. From six or seven months of lurking around here, whenever the site editor comes up with a new bullshit article, it seems like you’re the Robin to his Batman and come to defend him on everything he has to say. I was genuinely wondering if it ever gets old, especially when you try to back him up on some of his more asinine pieces. I guess it doesn’t.
Luck - January 26, 2012
What gets old
is listening to people like you.
Ayrshire - January 26, 2012
Brilliant.
I look forward to BBS’ next asinine rant and your support of it. Cheers!
Luck - January 26, 2012
i would love to know
where a liar fits into doing things the “right way”
GoHorseshoe - January 23, 2012
I want to win!
Period. If JT is the best coach they can get than so be it! I’d take him over some coordinator (except Zim) any day….
Five times JT has won his league…he wins 80% of the time…
Caldwell was the highest of character guys. How did that work out? NFL isn’t a league for sainthood…
I want to win and soon
(206)NightRidah - January 23, 2012 via mobile
Also,
Unlike the other candidates JT has been watching the Colts and has access to game film. He is 2-3 months ahead in preparation for the 2012 season!
(206)NightRidah - January 23, 2012 via mobile
Do you really think there is much to take away from the 2011 season?
I doubt his time with the team this year is much of a leg up. At least from a coaching/film perspective. Maybe in terms of networking, sure.
FatDT - January 23, 2012
C'mon Fat DT
You are a smart guy. He had had a chance to evaluate current talent and how it would fit in his scheme
(206)NightRidah - January 23, 2012 via mobile
Zimmer Love...
I don’t get what all of the love for Zimmer (as a HC) is about. He’s a great DC but how do they go about evaluating his skills as a head coach. I guess none of us really know. If we hired him as a DC I’d be all for it….
JohnHandburgers - January 23, 2012
You can say that about anybody that hasn't been a head coach
You can evaluate how his guys have done during hard times (top defenses even when the team as a whole has a bad year), what his players say about him (they love him and play hard for him, seems like a good motivator), how he handles turnover (losing key players doesn’t seem to slow his defense down), etc.
FatDT - January 23, 2012
I am confused about the Zimmer hype too
Even with their Defense being markedly improved under Zimmer, Cincy is part of arguably the least “explosive” division in the NFL. Also, check out their schedule, I think their defensive numbers were a product of terrible offenses.
steveoly32 - January 23, 2012
BBS! What is this?
Back to Dungy, he acknowledged he has talked to NFL teams about head coaching vacancies. He also wants to do an interview with Bill Belichick prior to the Super Bowl, and went so far as to say he’s ‘good friends’ with the Patriots head coach.
I really do not care Dungy is not coming back here if he returns to coaching. Also What does a Belichick interview with a sports caster have to do with our head coaching vacancy? This once again makes you look petty trying too discredit someone. I really do not care who are next head coach is along as his staff and him are competent. Tressel ball may not be a bad idea considering it looks like the Colts are going with Luck and from what I have seen from 3 QB’s that Jim Harbaugh has coached is each and every one of Jim Harbaugh QB’s has coached has been an elite game-manager.
dave1251 - January 23, 2012
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Oh hell no!!!!
I trust Irsay won’t hire this mediocre coach.
Coltsfan1345 - January 23, 2012
Why would you say that?
He hired the worst coach of all time in Caldwell. Remember 26-63 at Wake Forest. Anything is possible, based on his track record.
Ayrshire - January 23, 2012
of all time?
i would love to know how he’s the worst of all time, he may have inherited a good team with peyton manning at the the helm, but worst of all time? no
GoHorseshoe - January 23, 2012
Well, that's the impression I got watching his attempt at coaching.
I’ve never known any other head coaches to have such a bad college coaching resume. I haven’t seen any evidence of clutch decision-making, which head coaches are supposed to be able to do. This includes being able to call a time-out at the right time and make an in-game adjustments, based on what the other team is doing. So, again, that’s my impression. If there is somebody who has been worse at the head coaching position, I’m not sure who it would be.
Ayrshire - January 23, 2012
names like
petrino and saban come to mind, and at the time of dungy retiring this made sense and people were expecting dungy 2.0. if not for an onside kick and a late game miscommunication he could have a ring. i’m not saying he was a good coach, all i’m saying is he could have done worse
GoHorseshoe - January 23, 2012
He went 2-14 without Manning I don’t know how much worse it could have been 0-16?
We should be glad to have lost that SB otherwise Caldwell would still be here.
CF4L - January 23, 2012
considering
considering 0-16 is the worst you can do you, yes. marinelli gets my vote for worst of all time. i’m fine with you saying caldwell is the second worst.
GoHorseshoe - January 23, 2012
Caldwell was one of the main reasons
that super bowl was lost. And, the hiring never made sense….at least it didn’t to me. It never makes sense to hire a coach who’s a proven loser in college. Is he miraculously supposed to turn into a winner by coaching in the pros? And, as far as expecting Dungy 2.0….I was never impressed with version 1.0. If…the conservative, take-no-chances whatsoever stance during games, believing a defense is better with midgets, and resting (rusting) players every year is supposed to be something to be happy about…..count me out.
Ayrshire - January 23, 2012
Tressel's an idiot
Just hire the offensive coordinator of the Redskins or something.
Coltsfan1345 - January 23, 2012
LMAO
now THAT was funny
BigBlueDawg - January 23, 2012
Guys
For those of you that don’t watch college football, you don’t know what you’re getting into if you hire Tressel. You just look at his record and say “Oh, he wins. I’m fine with that”.
But first of all, he won in the Big 10 which we all know is not a football conference. If you watch CFB, you routinely see the Big 10 going 3-5 in their bowl games. Tressel himself pretty much sucked it up in Bowl games and when he’d play a big team out of conference like USC or Texas, they’d usually loose. He was exposed as a poor head coach in a lot of these games – the ones against elite teams. He just didn’t have a good gameplan when it came to beating elite teams and he was outcoached. You can argue all you want that OSU had less talent than those teams but we all know that’s not true.
Obviously we all know is coaching style is conservative to the extreme. If he’s hired, expect to be last in the league in going for on 4th down, as he thinks punting is the most important play in football (literally). I personally would much rather have an aggressive coach, but Tressel is as conservative as it gets.
Look at where Ohio State ranked in 4th down attempts since 2004 with Tressel:
2004: 5 attempts (Least amount in Country)
2005: 6 attempts (2nd Least amount in Country)
2006: 11 attempts (10th Least amount in Country)
2007: 14 attempts (14th Least amount in Country)
2008: 9 attempts (3rd Least amount in Country)
2009: 9 attempts (3rd Least amount in Country)
2010: 10 attempts (7th Least amount in Country)
Hooray for playing scared!
By the way, don’t compare Tressel to Harbaugh. Harbaugh took over Stanford, the laughing stock of college football at the time (they were 45 point underdogs to USC when he got there and were 8 point favorites by the time he left). It’s truly remarkable the way he turned around that program from a 2 win team to a national power. Ohio State, on the other hand, was a national power before Tressel got there. What Harbaugh did was much much more impressive. Compare Tressel to a worse version of Pete Carrol (who is a good in-game coach and an aggressive one at that. USC was usually in the top 10 in most 4th down conversions, as were Oregon and Boise State and the most feared offenses in college football.
Alright I’m done with this rant.
Coltsfan1345 - January 23, 2012
If you're winning why go for it on 4th down?
Ty46 - January 23, 2012
Probably the same reason
They lost to Texas, USC, Florida, LSU, in their bowl games.
Coltsfan1345 - January 23, 2012
You are lying...
Tressel was 5-3 in BCS games guy! Two of his losses were in NC games. Basically he beat everyone else except when he played the best team in the country!
Why would you go for it on 4th down when you have a top 5 D every year and are usually up by 30 points?!
Tressel NEVER had an elite starting caliber NFL prospect at QB. He beat a Miami team that included Taylor McGahee Gore Winslow A. Johnson Parrish Wilfork Williams and Rolle with Craig Krenzel!
If you just want to say hey we can get someone better there is a lot of truth to that. Of you want to say that you would rather have Chilly or Morningwhig I disagree but that’s a viable conversation. Calling a .800 pct person that won 7 Big Ten titles and singlehandedly dismantled Michigan as a program a bad coach that’s just a lie
5-3 in BCS games!
(206)NightRidah - January 23, 2012 via mobile
4-3*
0-2 vs USC
1-2 vs Texas
0-3 vs SEC
I think those are the teams we’d consider elite, no?
Coltsfan1345 - January 23, 2012
5-3 in BCS games bro
Beat:
Miami
Kansas State
Notre Dame
Oregon
Arkansas
Lost:
Florida
LSU
Texas
If you want to be a jerk about the Arkansas vacated win be my guess. They won the game…just like the Fab 5 went to two final fours and SC won a national title with Bush…
They lost to South Carolina in a meaningless bowl his first year…OSU wasn’t elite…
They did get hammered by superior USC teams. And lost 2 out if 3 to Texas. So what’s your point?! You are using stats to lie! You are basically saying he was 1-7 in important games lol…he beat Michigan so bad they blew up their program…he was 5-3 in BCS bowls…pretty dang good…
Basically the only time he lost was to superior SC teams and SEC…both which had better athletes. In the NFL it’s a draft league not recruiting…
If you dislike JT that’s fine but to say he lost everything they played a good team is a lie…to say OSU was inferior to SC LSU and Florida is the truth…
Didn’t tress win a NC…Didnt he win 4 D2 NCs? I think he knows how to win
(206)NightRidah - January 23, 2012 via mobile
Win was vacated, therfore he was 4-3
I didn’t make that up, not my rules.
Michigan’s program blew itself up. Ohio State’s real competition now is Wisconsin and Wisconsin fared pretty well against OSU. They were something like 3-3 against each other.
“Basically the only time he lost was to superior SC teams and SEC…both which had better athletes. In the NFL it’s a draft league not recruiting”
So when he looses in the NFL are you going to justify it by saying he lost to a team with better players. Do you realize it’s his job to get the best players. He lost to a USC team with a freshman QB at home. OSUs talent was superiors to USCs that year, no doubt about that. His gameplan against Florida was horrific. 41-14 is a joke, especially when you’re undefeated with the heisman trophy winner and favored by a good amount in the game. Urban Meyer exposed Tressel in that game. He made him look like a fool.
Coltsfan1345 - January 23, 2012
Not wasting anymore time one you...
.800 win pct a NC two runner ups fine…4-3 in BCS bowl games with another win vacated… 8-1 vs arch rival…
Who wants a coach that wins 80% of the time and has had the best team among his peers five times?
The NFL is about winning and particularly beating inferior teams then splitting with teams of equal talent…
(206)NightRidah - January 23, 2012 via mobile
The NFLs about winning the Super Bowl, not beating inferior teams...
Nick Saban, Bobby Petrino Steve Spurrier, Lou Holtz, Pete Carrol, Butch Davis, Mike Riley, Frank Kush, etc.
College coaches with no NFL experience don’t make it in the NFL. Plain and simple. They’re highly successful in college, but they do not make it in the NFL. You can talk about winning % all you want, but college coaches rarely succeed in the NFL if they don’t have NFL coaching experience.
Coltsfan1345 - January 23, 2012
Obviously it's impossible for college coaches with no NFL experience to be successful in the NFL.
No doubt.
Oh hey Mr. Harbaugh!
James Broschat - January 23, 2012
He had NFL experience
Tressel has never worked for an NFL team as a coach. Harbaugh did.
Duh…..
Coltsfan1345 - January 23, 2012
Les Miles - coach of LSU
What about the Mad Hatter? A winner in the SEC can win in the NFL.
MadStork - January 23, 2012
Except for Steve Spurrier and Nick Saban
Coltsfan1345 - January 23, 2012
ouch!!!
MadStork - January 23, 2012
I disagree with the premise. I don’t think the fans at IU or Purdue or Notre Dame would be happy if Tressel were hired to coach at their university, but I’m not sure it matters all that much for a pro coach. Exhibit A is Larry Brown. Both UCLA and Kansas ended up on probation because of violations that occurred during Brown’s tenure, and both times he had left for the NBA before the university paid the price. I recall Brown as being pretty popular for making the Pacers relevant for the first time in their NBA history, and don’t recall any hand-wringing about the NCAA.
I’m much more concerned about Tressel’s total lack of NFL experience, because I can’t think of a single coach (I’m sure there has been one at some point, but memory fails) who made the transition without ever having been an NFL assistant.
John M (The Crimson Quarry) - January 23, 2012
He's a disgrace?
Why, because he didn’t want to rat anyone out? Who cares? Those players shouldn’t have sell their rings and jerseys to be making quick cash in the first place, when the NCAA is making millions off of them.
BlueInSD - January 23, 2012
Just a question??
Ok so explain to me the issues with Tressel? I admit to being totally ignorant on Big Ten Football and only know that there were serious allegations about the Ohio St. football program,but the guy seem like a winner, producing results in a big time conference for a long period of time. I would think that’s what you would want in a rebuilding program with the team going younger. Iam anxious to here more about what you all think.
dalcoltfan - January 23, 2012
Zimmer.
I was calling for Zimmer well before Caldwell was fired. Love Tress, but I’m hoping for Zimmer, Chudzinski, or Carmichael, for that matter. I definitely wouldn’t be disappointed with Tress though. It will certainly be a tough sell, but at the end of the day, if he wins, the base will love him and Grigson will be a “genius”.
Oh, and thanks for apologies, Brad lol.
Stew Blake - January 23, 2012
So...
…in a league that names a dog-torturing thug and felon the “Comeback Player of the Year”; idolizes the killer from Baltimore and puts up with the likes of Su and that fat idiot Haynesworth, you tell us there is no room for forgiving a coach? Give us all a small break. We all know what Coach Tressel’s biggest obstacle really is …
Jim Hinnant - January 23, 2012
There are much more horrible, deplorable things that coaches have done that turning a blind eye to some free tattoos.
He lied to protect the program, players involved, and then fell on his sword when he was outed and took full responsibility for his actions. I think 95% of the hatred for tressel stems from the fact that he’s and OSU guy, and the other 5% are naive enough to assume that coaches from coast to coast, conference to conference, and college to college aren’t guilty of indiscretions at least as deplorable as trading memorabilia for ink jobs.
TheWeasley - January 23, 2012 via Android app
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