Stampede Blue

And next year when we suck -

How will that feel?

LOL

:-)

I smile because that was funny.

Me too.

I smile because if we suck next year it will have nothing to do with the dictator being gone.

coltsfanbeforemanning - January 2, 2012 reply

in fact

it will be because the dictator… that is why we will suck next year. Takes teams generally a few years to turn it around… a couple if they are Luck(y).

All the people that read that crap analysis about how our drafting has been good lately haven’t been watching the games. It doesn’t matter who other people got around the pick around that time. The GM’s job is to get talent, drafted, undrafted, or free agents. We had people that were labeled as “starters” that simply padded those stats but in reality were never any good. Like Fiola Moala (who was decent this year but TERRIBLE for the past two years). Special teams is generally a good way to judge a team’s talent depth… well we’ve been bottom of the barrell for a LOOOOONNNNNGGG time.

Tell that to the apologists.

I agree with you. The result of having one player gone speaks for itself.

coltsfanbeforemanning - January 2, 2012 reply

also

alot of people that look at those draft picks don’t realize its part of coaching and team fit as well. How many times have we seen average players blossom into superstars under the right coaches?

Jerry Hughes may be one of those. I almost think he will start at LE this upcoming year and he’s got a few games to prove his worth. If he doesn’t, he rides pine for the rest of the year and is cut. He’s obviously got talent or he wouldn’t have been drafted that early, but it may take another team/coach/scheme to get him to be a real pro.

It is in this area that Polian has failed especially bad lately. Watching Donald Brown this year do better behind an improved O-line also furthers this point.

Nice attitude

suck worse than 2-14... highly doubtful.

With a respectable QB, I agree.

But I also can’t imagine getting back to annual 12-4 or even 10-6 seasons without a LOT of rebuilding.

I'm just glad that rebuilding can start now

Im getting

January 2nd 2012 tatoo across my chest

Jim"TimeOut"Caldwell - January 2, 2012 via mobile reply

Cool story, Ayrshire.

You're a dumbass.

Why am I a dumbass? For calling you out on your mobile account?

..because you are. I don't have a mobile account Einstein.

I saw J’TO’Caldwell’s comment, thought it was funny and repeated it, hoping some other’s would do it too. And, you immediately come to the stupid conclusion that I must be him. Get a life.

I'm guessing that

This was just a silly coincidence, right? The exact same comment posted from two accounts within a minute of each other.

It's ok though. Nothing can be proven either way, which was fairly impressive on your part.

Keep calm and carry on, sir. You can probably delete that other account in about 90 minutes anyway.

You're really not good at identifying false accounts

Are you? I think for practice you should go download the TOR bundle and do some research on the hidden wiki before you start deciding what false accounts look like.

And who thinks a comment as bland and generic as that

Is (1) funny, and (2) worth repeating? Really, that’s a pretty lame excuse.

We were online at the same time you fool. This isn't an Indyshockwave

situation. I saw his comment and thought it was quite hilarious. Why am I even trying to convince you? Anyone with the name ‘DonkeyBoner’ is clearly an idiot. LMAO

You tell me. I'm curious what is so hilarious, unique and innovative

About a comment like “Go fuck yourself”. Surely you’ve seen many other, better comments and I don’t believe I’ve seen you repeat (verbatim) any of those. What stood out about this one?

I am done with you Mr. Boner,...

you’ve just been proven to be wrong by one of the site’s writers.

Unless he is in two places at once

They aren’t the same person. One of them is in Indiana, one is in Florida.

mgrex03 - January 2, 2012 reply

I live in Tampa.

Thanks mgrex03 for posting the info. Some people just don’t get it.

You my good sir

Have just made my day. I love it when a “know-it-all” gets proven wrong.

Yeah, it's one thing to disagree with me about something

and I can respect that. But, DonkeyBoner claiming I created a second account is absurd. And, looking back at it, it probably wasn’t the most mature thing to say, but this season has been taking its toll on everyone,…me included. I was venting a bit that day. Anyway, thanks for the support bobby.

Anytime bud

I’ve been dealing with people who thought I would never succeed in my dreams for years. In the end, I have a pretty damn successful band and those assholes are working desk jobs.

People are always going to accuse others of stupid things. I just get enjoyment out of pissing them off and proving them wrong.

Just got back on

You guys are rediculous. I think we had 1 comment that was the same. And if ayshire is a 6’3" mexican like me I take it all back

Jim"TimeOut"Caldwell - January 2, 2012 via mobile reply

BBS, thanks for staying the course...

even in the midst of the Polian apologists (who are probably Polian relatives anyway). I hope your blogging knocked some sense into Irsay finally.

LOL

I agree

BBS stuck to his guns no matter what some of the “lesser intelligent” people like buymymonkey were saying all along.

There’s a reason he has his own blog. He knows what he is doing.

LOL!!

Seriously – you consider yourself more intelligent because we disagree? Wowsers.

Sure

Nothing says that I can’t consider myself more intelligent. Except of course there will probably be some new SOPA related law passed that says that in the next few weeks.

Our Bill of Rights is dead.

Er, okay...?

Ha!

so a different opinion = lesser intelligent?

... either Polian relatives or folks employed by the Colts internet PR staff.

SoCalHoosier - January 2, 2012 reply

Yeah...

…this blog and its writers had no effect on any decision, today or otherwise, made by Irsay or the Colts organization.

This is lame

Goldbugs called for buying gold for 20 years while it flat lined compared to other investments. Finally they were right. The only problem is folks made boatloads of money that they wouldn’t have if they had listened to the gold bugs. Eventually many things become true.

There is a God-I just gave thanks

RvHauler1 - January 2, 2012 reply

In the end ...

The hate of the media and the unwillingness of Polian to admit mistakes cost them their job…they gave this city a good 10 years and I’m sure other teams will gobble them up in no time

I think were in for some bad seasons in the next few years as this team rebuilds itself in the way the new GM wants it to

Hopefully gone is the undersized cover 2 D

Trav19purdue - January 2, 2012 reply

I just hope this is not the 80's all over again.

Ugh…

And 90's...

Yes, it was the media.

Definitely hatred of the media over all else. Because that’s most important.

willyduer - January 2, 2012 reply

yeah it was the media... yeah.

your mistaken, it was players, personnel, coaches, apparently irsay and most important the fans not named or related to BP. You will find more fans happy he is gone than if he stayed.

Ummmm

How about this possibility – It is rare to find a GM in place for 12 or more years regardless of production.

Brad,

Thank you so much for all of the wonderful work you have done in 2011. There is no question in my mind you helped get the Polians fired.

GOOD JOB!

JJ

Was that you on Sirius when Schein got word?

To think that an internet writer influenced the opinion of the man who owns the organization and works within the doors there is a bit over the top, though, don’t you think?

willyduer - January 2, 2012 reply

irsay did say he heard the fans opinions

I give him credit

I’m sure it wasn’t an easy decision, but it was necessary

yea now BBS can finally start talking football lol

Hearing the fans' collective opinion...

…and basing your decision on it are two entirely separate things.

how is it different after BBS articles or Wilson's and Bob's

you can see fans are tired of polian in the comments

I don't follow...

You’re suggesting that Irsay made the decision to fire the Polians because he received a virtual cornucopia of face-to-face conversations, phone calls, emails, tweets, texts, telegrams, smoke signals, etc. That’s absurd.

Irsay was acknowledging his holding in high regard of fans and their opinions, not that he made his decision because we all told him to do so.

no what i'm saying is irsay said on twitter

Ur feedback is heard n noted

to the fans meaning he also put in consideration what the fans had to say about polian and his son.

Nowhere did i say he did it because of the fans

and on anothor note

Don’t the fans that dislike polian read BBS articles also Bob’s and Phil’s so won’t they comment on the article against polian.

I think you and I...

…are just mired in miscommunication. Seems like we’re saying the same things, just in different ways.

then I am also to blame for Polians fireing

using your line of logic

dezznutz1001 - January 2, 2012 reply

Yeah that was me...

I don’t think it was just Brad. It was a lot of people. I have a blog, they tweeted Irsay, and alot of other fans wrote to him. However, I think when the “toxic environment” article broke, and the mainstream media picked it up it was over for the Polians.

I was replying to willyduer that I was on Sirius when the news broke

the way the replies work on here is kinda weird, but whatever.

Seriously??? LOL LOL LOL

Wow just wow. But how come Caldwell isn’t gone too? So who are potential GM’s?

Pili-One - January 2, 2012 reply

Just want to say one thing here

Bill Polian did GREAT things in Indianapolis. However, he was a terribly divisive figure, and his presence drove a wedge through our fanbase. Now that he is reportedly gone, it’s time to stop the bickering and get back to simply rooting for the team.

We’ll update the story and provide editorial features today and tomorrow. Keep it here and on Twitter for updates.

As always, thanks for reading. Go Colts.

Brad Wells - January 2, 2012 reply

Yes, he drafted Peyton.

That was the right decision. And, he had a 50/50 shot of getting it right. Everything else was because of the greatness of Manning. So, more accurately, would be that ‘Manning did GREAT things in Indianapolis.’ All Polian did was keep Manning from reaching his incredible potential. If we’re really being truthful,…just sayin’.

Well said

Quitting on perfection, the SB loss, and 2-14 are now in the past. Go Colts!

+1

now fans will be divisive on luck versus rg3 or trading down. LOL

But its good to see someone in the media who stuck to his personal beliefs even if they were no popular and go back and forth or give the “company line”.

He was just there too long

There is no doubt he was instrumental in building the franchise. I’m grateful for that, he’s probably a hall of famer, but it was too much, he was tearing apart what he built. Plus, putting his son in charge was a big mistake.

Well said

Brad Wells - January 2, 2012 reply

Absolutely

A very correct and gracious statement, Brad

Bill could really evaluate talent, but I agree he could be a cranky old fart and terrible PR man.
I acknowledge speaking up for Bill, and don’t apologize one whit. But, as Jim Irsay said . . .it was time. Polian had gotten stale and it is absolutely the right time for the franchise to make this move.
Thank you Bill Polian for helping guide the Colts back to national prominence, and godspeed.

oldecoltsfan - January 2, 2012 reply

I bet there was a " he goes or I go" between Peyton and Bill P

i agree

Pili-One - January 2, 2012 reply

starting to think the same thing

It has been reported that Tony Dungy would be a general manager for the right team

I think one of the CBS guys said it. I could see him in Indy, Irsay loves him, he comes in as GM and keeps Caldwell..you never know.

I hope not

please don't make this true

we need Mackenzie

+1000000

please army don't give irsay that thought...

that would end bad and we have the most likeable staff and coaches but choir boys as players and get beat down like that england team facing the Pats from Family Guy.

lol true we need agressive guys on did who will strike fear on offenses

we only have two who do that freeney and mathis and angerer is becoming the thrid

third

but you nailed it on the head

I am pulling for mckenzie to be part of this front office. you want proven personnel and he is part of that success. look at what the team did without Rogers, they still brought in the proper pieces that’s the front office I want… one that can build a team and have them play through injuries, rest, etc.

How the mighty have fallen

Bill Polian was great at what he does at one point. He really was. But in the world of “what have you done for me lately” it was time to go.

Here’s to hoping that Caldwell is next to go and that Fisher still wants to “feel like a winner.”

Knun - January 2, 2012 reply

HALLELUJAH

It’s about god damn time they got pink slipped.

KBUnitz - January 2, 2012 reply

greatttt!! BBS do your realized that...

90% of your writing material is now gone? hahaha..

BleedingBlueAndWhite - January 2, 2012 reply

Be careful

What you wish for. I simply hope the next guy in builds a team as good as the Colts have been over the last few years

I’m completely shocked they are gone though. Will definitely be interesting

Music Man - January 2, 2012 via mobile reply

WOW

this is news. Good to see that Irsay is proving you guys who doubted that he had the Cajones to pull the trigger.

“Nearly everyone at the press conference came away thinking that the Colts are, quite literally, so screwed up right now that they can’t even fire anyone properly”

hmmmmm

Ralla32 - January 2, 2012 reply

You know this goes to show that we occasionally can influence peoples minds with what we say here on the board. Lets plant the seed about Caldwell. Although if that seed hasn’t already germinated then i don’t know what will happen. Also now we know who the real boss is. It came down to Peyton vs Pollian i suspect Irsay chose Peyton.

Pili-One - January 2, 2012 reply

it's best to fire the GM before the coaches

when the new GM comes in he chooses who he wants as his head coach

Polian was the root of the problem.

I’m not remotely worried about Caldwell. He’ll be gone. My fear was that they simply were going to swap out puppets.

Delusional

BleedingBlueAndWhite - January 2, 2012 reply

So..

Does this have any impact on if Manning stays with the Colts. Negative or Positve. Any speculation?

I think he stays

it won't effect it imo

if peyton can play he’s playing

Irsay and Manning are attached at the hip. He stays

He lost the locker room?

I bet. I am sure the players were furious with sitting on the bench watching their opportunity to go undefeated go down the drain.

i'm sorry if that was me i would've have came out and said something after that

you don’t get that shot to go undefeated everyday

It was a terrible decision.

manningtoharrison - January 2, 2012 reply

Finally, Jim Irsay "grew a pair"

According to BBS, Irsay reads this blog so congrats for helping us get rid of the Polians. All those articles insulting them were worth it.

SpanishColtsFan - January 2, 2012 via mobile reply

I wonder how Peyton will look in a Jets Uniform?

PV Mike - January 2, 2012 reply

You’re evil…lol

stop ruining what has been a good day

Doesn't matter

Luck will look good in a Colts uniform.

manningtoharrison - January 2, 2012 reply

While holding clipboard for the next three years

I'll be happy for you guys

With or without Manning. You’re in a good situation.

I will never understand why you post here so much

EuroCap - January 2, 2012 reply

Do does A Gonzalez come back next year??

I would like to see Gonzalez back

I don’t think the Bill P gave him a chance, I would like to see what he can do, out of the dog house.

manningtoharrison - January 2, 2012 reply

I hope not

dezznutz1001 - January 2, 2012 reply

Effing awesome

I take back everything bad I ever said about Irsay – and I did spew some awfully vicious vitriol

Between his stated loyalty to Peyton and this latest move, Irsay is starting to seem like he has his priorities in order

Irsay and Manning

Bill was retiring anyway, so people think it’s crazy but we weren’t going to have Bill around that much anyway. It would be Chris and Chris “ain’t built nothing”. Irsay will end up getting a GM that is OK with Manning staying on. Manning will end as a Colt.

GrizzColt - January 2, 2012 reply

Well there was rumor of friction between the Pollians and Manning.

Is this actually Irsay siding with Manning?

JCub3d - January 2, 2012 reply

lol i just notice something

were’s the guy using Jim Irsay’s name as an account he said changes was gonna come yesterday.

I think the Polians just became toxic

It was a bad year and stress levels were up and it brought out their bad side. Remember when Irsay had to say something on twitter to Bill P. I think Irsay was just tired of the fight with them.

Now let's get a good GM and hope they

hire Bill Cowher or Jeff Fisher.

Boiler00 - January 2, 2012 reply

Cowher is not coming and even if he did, he has not coached in years.

OK, I'll take Jeff Fisher then.

Boiler00 - January 2, 2012 reply

oh please god no

Why not?

Fisher produced winners in Nashville despite never having an elite QB. As a fan of a Division rival, I promise you I would HATE to see Fisher go to Indy and get Peyton or Luck as his QB.

FreedomRide - January 2, 2012 reply

agree 100%

So what makes us think the player hated bill polian?

I mean… he did draft them all… I’ve heard nothing from any of the players saying they disliked him

icedude - January 2, 2012 reply

Because bad-mouthing your boss is great for job security. Jeebus.

SoCalHoosier - January 2, 2012 reply

True, ask Gonzo. How much playing time did he get?

fanatik - January 2, 2012 reply

He's not their boss anymore...

Anyway, I’m asking how we know that all the players hated him. It’s an honest question: I’ve seen no quotes or evidence of it. Sure we can assume all the players hated him… but I was just wondering..

How is that so ridiculous?

I could see how various players would hate him (IE: Gonzo, Tryon, etc.)

icedude - January 2, 2012 reply

Jim Irsay is one of the smartest, most astute owners ever.

Irsay gets it. Winning matters in a small market like Indy. It makes a big difference in income to the team and in how the community sees the team.

I felt like this year was a “suck for luck” campaign since about week three of the season. It really looked like the Irsays were setting things up so Caldwell would take the fall and Bill would retire and Chris would inherit the Colts with Manning coming back and with the first pick. Looks like Irsay didn’t go for setting things up for junior to be the next executive of the year and losing stuck in his craw just a little bit too much.

Now we’ll get a new GM, and we will see if Caldwell stays. My gut is that there are too many proven good coaches out there to keep Caldwell. That said, I like Caldwell as a human being. He’ll land on his feet when the time comes.

indymike - January 2, 2012 reply

Irsay 1 more thing

go and hire this guy for GM pleaseee ohh pleasee http://www.packers.com/team/staff/reggie-mckenzie/1e5734a6-56db-4fb0-a20e-8a8cc786e1b5

Wow, this is a scary time

Yes, the GM was mediocre and not nearly as effective as he was early in his career, but this is a scary time for the Colts. This could be really good for the team or really bad. Like someone posted previously, all you have to do is look at the post-polian bills and panthers to wonder if the Colts could be heading down a dark road.

I for one hope this means the resigning of players like Wayne and Mathis that have meant so much to the franchise and have shown they are still as effective if not more effective than years past.

Mark Olson - January 2, 2012 reply

i think all this depends on who we bring in as GM

Had to be done

Good move and a necessary move.

Coltsfan1345 - January 2, 2012 reply

Jim Irsay doing the ~~Bill Polian~~ Show tonight

COLTS_CR9 - January 2, 2012 reply

Does anyone know where I can watch the press conference live on the web?

fanatik - January 2, 2012 reply

http://www.wishtv.com/

http://www.colts.com/Streaming.html

I believe they'll have it streamed here:

http://www.wishtv.com/

mgrex03 - January 2, 2012 reply

It will also be here if there are any problems with the WISH-TV stream

with the polians out... will dungy come back to indy?

in any form that can help with the rebuilding

I was watching the Dark Knight last night and this line caught my attention and it made me think of this whole situation

“You either die a hero or you live long enough to become the enemy”

lol was it on TNT

i think so

sometimes I have a bad habit of watching movies on TV that i own lol

Good riddance is all I can say.

I kinda knew Bill went off the deep end when he called out Pat McAfee for his failures at directional punting. Kind of reminded me of Mr. Burns when he coached Homer’s softball team, demanding that Don Mattingly shave his sideburns.

Anyway, Nate over at Colts Authority appears to be despondent about the firing, and is predicting seasons of famine and pestilence ahead. I dunno, call me dumb, but I haven’t felt this refreshed and optimistic about the franchise in two years. Now hopefully Manning will get a fairer look at ending his career as a Colt from a front office that’s not clouded with (frankly, inexplicable) bitterness towards him.

And if we don’t keep him in the end, at least we know it will be for real reasons, not just crotchetiness.

HoosierDammit - January 2, 2012 reply

I think about the only thing that is certain is that things will be different. Maybe BBS and several of the other bloggers will finally get the press credentials they deserve. It’s not 1985 anymore. Yes, BBS, I just said you deserve to get press credentials.

indymike - January 2, 2012 reply

I must admit I didn't think Jimbo had the stones to dump the Polii.

EVLGNUS - January 2, 2012 reply

Why? Jim Irsay has made some very tough, risky decisions… including bringing Polian to Indy.

indymike - January 2, 2012 reply

Short of winning the SB

This is turning out to be the best season possible.

clnbailey - January 2, 2012 reply

anyone with a link to the live press conference?

http://www.colts.com/Streaming.html
and
http://www.wishtv.com/subindex/video/live_events_1

yes

jim caldwell

still under evaluation

Keysta101 - January 2, 2012 reply

what a horrid, horrid move

you can forget about competing for a superbowl in the manning era. Its going to take quite some time to rebuild the whole roster

metal_militia - January 2, 2012 reply

I guess I'm in the minority

Because I agree. A complete ransack of the team? Unless something miraculous happens, look for a terrible few seasons (hopefully only a few). Stability is what seems to make football teams successful (Steelers, Packers, Patriots). Look how little CHURN those guys have had over the last 10 years. Rarely can a team dump the entire front off and coaching staff, and bring in all new players, and then generate some positive vibe on the field.

But I’m sure if things go badly next year, this blog will be the first to say “ooops, we were wrong”.

http://www.indystar.com/article/20120102/SPORTS03/120102056/

And Manning is "shocked"...

He usually has no comment, but I’m telling you, he would have never come here without the Polians here.

Before you start running the streets yelling fire..lets wait and see